Im going to try to get into a school in finland (i live in norway), and i dont have any higher education, AND i am a rehabilitated drug addict with a record in the police and psychiatry. i do on the other hand have a couple of years as a professional. i HAVE to get into a school to get my life back on track, and i just cant stand to think about going through another year of public secondary/higher education schools... i remember how the last time went, those placed are always filled with people who dont really care too much about school, or life in general.

is there anyway i can convince theese people that they actually would love to have me there anyway? :?

ive been reading about nlp a couple of weeks now, and im starting to get the hang of it... kinda. and im wondering how many things or situations you can use this in... thanks - mindsword

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As a recently certified NLP practitioner and hypnotherapist I am wondering who I should belong to. I am in Victoria, BC Canada so a no-brainer would be the Canadian Association of NLP, but what about the American Board of Hypnotherapy and NLP? I am looking to add some credentials to my website and obviously to my practice. Any guidance/ experience would be appreciated.

I really like NLP, and cautious of it at the same time. I DO believe in the concept, that how the brain functions depends on how our neurons are wired. And language - body language, voice tone, emotional stories, humour, banter, etc - is an effective way to influence that "programming".

And I agree that this is how all effective communication works. (So kudos to Bandler and Grinder for jumping on that and putting a name on it, lol)

However, to me, the techniques involved in NLP have been disappointing and have not lived up to the great concept NLP is based on. Maybe this comes from being therapy/sales oriented, modeling "successful" people. I know NLP puts importance on emotional states but to me NLP techniques are still focused more on transferring ideas and benefits. If NLP claims to be about all communication, I'd like to see more emotional, charismatic aspects. Stuff that move people, naturally. NLP techniques tought in practioner courses come off very mechanical to me. And things like Swoosh patterns, Timeline stuff, 6-step reframing, etc haven't made much impact when I've tried them. I've watched trance stuff by Bandler who's supposedly the best in the world and very charismatic, and I've just found it boring and annoying.

Maybe for other, more social applications, NLPers should go back to the great concept of NLP to model charisma, social influence, attraction, etc with less focus on using techniques derived from therapists? What do you guys think?

p.s. don't mean to come off negative, but I also noticed that although you can argue that NLP explains how people operate through its concept, I don't see many succesfful, socially well known people who actually practiced NLP techniques to become successful, unless they're in therapy or sales training.

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