There is something about walking down these glass stairs: after all questions have been asked and everything has been said and done, I can only wait. On every floor the true colours of these tiles welcome me, until I hit rock bottom on the ground. It is a pity that these tiles have all been cut into straight pieces: the corners tend to break off, which reveals the concrete floor beneath. True colours go only a centimeter deep unless they belong to the mountain itself.

Mount Blanc is covered with snow these days and the tunnel even had to be closed for a while. It doesn't make sense to close a tunnel because of risk of avalanches, since it is the only safe place to be. It would'nt have mattered if my car had broken down, no vehicles would have moved anyway. I could just have had it towned unto one of those trucks that carry cars.

The only way to save yourself from an avalanche is to start one and manage to stay out of it.

A simple clean question can start an avalanche of information coming down the mountain of knowledge, showing it's true colours of rock bottom.

It has been quiet here... But so much has been happening... Just got an email update from Caitlin at training attention and I am infused with what is occurring... In the power of six space it has been even quieter... This is the pause point, it has arrived and is now passing. In and so what is now emerging? If you are Android watch this space, if you're apple you're gonna have to wait a little longer! Love to allMatthew

It has been quiet here... But so much has been happening... Just got an email update from Caitlin at training attention and I am infused with what is occurring... In the power of six space it has been even quieter... This is the pause point, it has arrived and is now passing. In and so what is now emerging? If you are Android watch this space, if you're apple you're gonna have to wait a little longer! Love to allMatthew

Seems to me there is a growing confusion and conflict over the use of "clean" and its scope.

A clean facilitator, from my perspective, has a huge range of emergent processes available, whereas here it is constrained to Symbolic Modelling and Clean Space. Clearly this is a market confusion.

Symbolic Modelling is the proper name what is now in our community the vernacular of "clean language". Unfortunately, this is now published and spread into the wider world. As a result, the wider world now only sees clean language as this tiny little aspect of the whole that now exists.

Creating competencies for a "clean facilitator" would IMO have to include the emergence, in which, frankly, most of the clean community is lacking in training/competence/awareness and many years behind the advances made in France and at Holigral.

Perhaps there is a divergence, but it seems to me that the direction of the use of the terms is heading / has arrived, at a narrow subset of the legacy of David.

Comments welcomed.

Steven

11th January 2012, 7-30 for 8 pm at "The Devereaux", The Strand, London WC2, courtesy of Atlantis Bookshop's regular "the moot with no name".

I will present the complete theory of the self and group, that underpins "the matrix" in the first part, and then address the more esoteric subject of "the return of the gods" - addressing the other side - literally the balancing of the unbalanced equation in society today.

all the best ...

Steven

Choices may be beharioural - changing TV channel.
Choices may be metaphorical - changing paths.
Is it useful to think of some structual changes as choices. To see things from another person's perspective. To akncowledge and act on a new piece of information.
Is the point of much of David's work to direct attention to areas and to facilitate the person make conscious or unconscious choices to change?
Pointing at the most important aspect of the structure of the clien'ts experience and noticing if there is a change seems a useful metaphor to me as a facilitator. It also notes that it may be neither my or the client's conscious choice that makes the change, but we can invite the client's subconscious to see the essence of the experience and accept it or change it.

I reposted this in General

The concept of networks presupposes that every node has directly access to and can pass information to the neighbouring nodes and through them to their neighbours and so on, until it may return and form a loop.

I wonder however about the quality of the communication between them.

In some systems an actor can only do what it is programmed to do or allowed to: e.g. in chess the pieces are bound to rules as to what moves they can or cannot make: they can only move one step forward or move diagonially or whatever.

This restricts the ability of the network to communicate.

Likewise the brain functions in a way that some information processing regions only receive sensory data from one modality and project to one or a few other cortical areas.

This means that you'd have to map carefully how the information passes through the network and what can or cannot result from that.

I'm sure somebody has thought about that before me. Anyone any thoughts about that or suggestions for further reading?

This is intentionally broad, I have some ideas on what may take place, what it can be, and I'm interested in all ideas from others, facilitators and clients.

What is your sense of what goes on during clean facilitation?

We're moving towards the start of our modular course covering the fundamentals of Clean Facilitation, NLP and Coaching.
The content is fab, the trainers are a lovely mix and include myself Caitlin Walker, Marian Way and Michael Mallows and the 15 attendees so far range from:
educators, heads of innovative social enterprises, charity CEO's, corporate heads of department, IT specialists and of course, coaches!

It will be high level thinking and very very practical!

http://www.trainingattention.co.uk/w...on-at-Work.pdf

Call and discuss it if you'd like to join in!

Now that we have the fabulous Training Attention @ Work course starting in London in October I think it's time to put some attention on a group more local to myself in the North West. If you'd like to be a part of a 'modelling' and outcomes focussed coaching group give me a call and I'll put you into the mailing list. Beginners and experienced clean modellers welcome. There will be an opportunity to complete an ILM Level 3 or 5 in Coaching and Mentoring at Work

at Liverpool John Moores University - fabulous Clean Champions in learning - the Sports Development Team are now able to work independently to elicit outcomes and come to shared models for moving everyday issues forward.
Their exciting work is consistently resulting in students achieving 75% 2:1's and above - a brilliant example of metaphors@work
To see great sporting successes being modelled cleanly look for the Learning Journey's DVD on our website - Beth Tweddle and Kate Walsh - world class gymnast and captain of the Great Britain hockey team to name but two.

Hello Clean Community

I am after some coaches with a business coaching background who could work with dyslexic adults - I can provide specific training in this area if you have other skills.

Most important seems to be:

professional coaching experience (and ILM or equivalent qualification is desirable and you can do this with Training Attention if needs be)
at least 4 days Clean
some NLP working knowledge - esp. maintaining a positive state, eye accessing

I am particularly after people who work in:

West midlands
Bristol
Cardiff

It isn't the best paid work in the world but it can be a nice stream of steady referrals and great for building up a portfolio of experience.

Let me know if you are interested!

Nancy

One charity finds a new application for our Clean Set-up. Local Authority cuts mean that this unique residential project, supporting older dependent drinkers with associated health problems to live in their own homes, needs to make a major switch away from reliance on local authority funding to explore other income streams.

One manager is supporting his staff team, already stretched to cover a broader workload with fewer staff, to self-model how they can contribute on a personal and project level, to the fundraising strategy of the wider organisation.
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This is his unique take on the clean set-up:

FUNDRAISING – CLEAN FEEDBACK

Using the tools learned at our session with Caitlin, please think about applying these to the issue of
fundraising at an individual, project or organisational level.

Please have a go at answering / thinking about the questions below for discussion at the meeting on
Friday and / or individual feedback over the next week.

a. For fundraising to go just the way I want, it will be like what?
b. For fundraising to be like A, you’d like to be like what?
c. What support do you need for you to be like B?

My book will finally be available from late August. It takes in the story of the developmental journey of the vast range of clean facilitation that form "the holigral method", starting with the world of NLP and the reasons why many of us moved onto clean language. It them moves on through the traditional clean language and the legacy of David Grove, and into the vast range of new pastures, tying together a complete model of reality and the underlying physics of the metaphysical world. It is the culmination of the last 10 years of my life, researching the human structures. About 30 different clean processes are presented, as well as a detailed transcript revealing a complete client "re-scaling".

Initially, it will be on sale through holigral and amazon.

Steven

Clean Language is normally defined as Symbolic Modelling plus Clean Space and the odd pattern of six. It has been four years since I ran a formal training to teach the more advanced clean language processes. There are over thirty now, spanning momentum forms, fractal forms, cultural fields and analogue trauma, as well as a complete digital trauma healing model.

There are two spaces available for: six days experience of the processes, and a six-day tools-and-techniques training, 15-20 August and 22-27 August, respectively. The experience is a pre-requisite of the training.

Contact steve at holigral dot com to get one of these last two places.

Steven

2-8 July 2011, Cuernavaca, Mexico. Collection to/from Mexico City airport.

Features:
The Ark Angle - the one and only
"The Emperor's New Psychology" - now ready in draft,the book that reveals ALL about the structure of reality.
The latest, revelatory emergence patterns and holistic diagnostic model.

Benefits: unbelievable clarity and peace of mind, emotional sensitivity bu stability and insight into the world around, efficiency: white collar working hours typically reduced by 80%, permanently zero stress as a result - if you complete the process.


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I'm reading "Resolving Traumatic Memories by D. Grove and B.Panzer. It has me thinking about different types levels of awareness & where to direct questions. How can we direct the best next question?

David Grove also talked about "a delivery system that delivers a question without any resistance" and it "feels right to the client".
I wondering if a good thing to do is direct a question to the type of experience a client has.

Whether a client has a deep goal, or just wants to sort out a sock drawer, I note different sorts of experiences.

- Sensing; Observing, feeling something: I see only one Nike sock
- Remembering something: I remember buying these socks and I had both of them.
- Anticipating something: It'll all go wrong at work if I can't put my finger on the information I need quickly
- Imagining something: What if I went barefoot?
- Evaluating something: Brian has clearly lost his marbles as well as his socks.
- Knowing how they know (Is this epistemological?): I know I'm untidy when my head spins when I can't find something
- Knowing about themselves: I am a tidy person
- Knowing deeper truths (Is this ontological? Beyond Self-delusion): I'm not really a tidy person, but I'm OK.
- Knowing I'm being open and deep in describing my story: I'm afraid not being tidy makes me a bad person.
- Knowing about several experiences: I'm tidy at work and untidy at home
- Knowing knowledge may be emerging; it's on the tip of my tongue
- Knowing new knowledge has emerged: I see I have become tidy
- Knowing that one's awareness and topic is moving: I'm jumping around (in what I say).

Do you think mismatching the question with the client experience increases the likelihood of resistance?
Client: I have an untidy sock drawer and I want to tidy my sock drawer. [Let's assume the client is observing untidiness and using his conscious mind]
A Clean Question like "When you have an untidy sock drawer, what kind of you are you?" seems likely to jar, and I'm wondering if it is because the type of experience is mismatched.
Now over a session, this could turn out to be a key question, if the client equated tidiness with being next to godliness

Is this model valid useful, clean?
Should we try to match questions to experience types?
Should we try to "move" a client to another experience type.. to get to the heart of the issue?
How do we know when we should ask about another type of experience?
Has anyone any comments on this or further reading?

"The first cells lead a precarious existence. The environment around them changed continually, and every hazard presented a new threat to their survival. In the face of all these hostile forces -- harsh sunlight, meteoric impacts, volcanic eruptions, droughts and floods -- the bacteria had to trap energy, water, and food to maintain their integrity and stay alive. Each crisis must have wiped out large portions of the first patches of life on the planet and would certainly have extinguished them altogether, had it not been for two vital traits -- the ability of the bacterial DNA to replicate faithfully and to do so with extraordinary speed. Because of their enormous numbers, the bacteria were able, again and again, to respond creatively to all threats and develop a great variety of adaptive strategies. Thus they gradually expanded, first in the waters and then in the surfaces of sediments and soil." (Fritjof Capra, The Web of Life, 1996)

Q: What are your creative responses to hostile forces and which adaptive strategies have you developed?

A rare public opportunity to experience the full range and variety of the leading edge in emergence and clean ...

the ark angle is there, the venue is stunning, the weather awesome and the potential to visit amazing spiritual sites.

contact steve at holigral dot com for info ..

Steven

Penny and I have been asked to write a short chapter on 'The Clean Community' for a new book, Innovations in NLP. It will be an anthology edited by Michael Hall and Shelle Rose Charvet.

Belatedly I've had the idea of asking people who might consider themselves part of the community for a metaphor (duh!) I hope to include a number of examples in the chapter.

The catch, the deadline for our submission is the end of March. So I need immediate responses. If you have a moment, could you post a short answer to the question:

The clean community is like what?

Thanks in advance

James

Hi, does anyone have any experience of Andy Austin's methodology?

http://realpeoplepress.com/blog/meta...vement#respond

What is different between this and clean/SM/Charles Faulkner's work?

Thank you

Matthew

Given that they're appointed to cleaning for the Queen, it's been a pleasure and a privilege bring clean questions, clean set-up and clean feedback to the managers of the Jeyes Group.
They have been innovative, brave and committed to becoming more of a 'learning organisation'
We are currently observing and evaluating the impact of our culture change project with the help of the wonderful Paul Tosey
Watch this space!

We're delighted to invite you to our regular group for women with outcomes they really desire. We meet on the first and third Wednesday's of every month.
We offer 6 evenings to learn the basics of clean modelling and then you move to a modelling group where we cover:

maintaining our healthy weight
attaining business goals
relating just the way we want to
parenting
spirituality
clean massage and bodywork
life goals
endings
bringing clean into our communities
tendering for joint work projects

Whatever is important to the group at the time.
Our intention is to create spin-off groups and businesses based on the excellent models we develop together.
Cost £10 per session on the night £75 for 10 sessions if prebooked
Venue: The Practise - West Kirby Merseyside

email Caitlin@trainingattention.co.uk to book your place.